Thursday, January 26, 2006

I don't know wht to make of this.

11 Comments:

At 6:03 AM, Blogger Adam said...

Jesus! You know of this publication?

 
At 8:07 AM, Blogger DBD said...

what's stange, on a personal level, is that as i went to bed last night, i "free-wrote" a poem about time suspending, then traveling backwards and forwards in smoke signals caught in the northern lights. what a coincidence....

 
At 10:02 AM, Blogger pete. said...

I found this by doing a search on a Russian physicist that this band
K-Space references. K-Space is a strange deal, with a Tuvan throat singer/shaman. They seem quite serious about shamanism, which one could describe as a form of time-travel. The band says they went into a "time travel room" in Russia which has got to be the same one described in this article. They report having some weird experience that they can't/won't describe. My question, or rather one of my countless questions, one that perhaps Bog Face or another Russe-o-phile can answer, is how legit the website is. "Prada."
I mean it was once the Soviet mouthpiece/propoganda machine, but
surely not just a complete tabloid. Did someone just buy the URL in the mad sell-off after the Collapse?

 
At 4:06 PM, Blogger fb said...

Pete

Hee hee! I did a Google search on Mariann McLein. If she actually existed I would have had many hits for her being cited in refereed scientific journals. However, after 5 pages I found nothing.

-FB

 
At 12:30 AM, Blogger pete. said...

You're right, FB. If I'd been even slightly motivated I would've found out how much this smells. Not that it was believable, but the source seemed semi-legit... A basic search shows that others have searched for this woman and come up with nothin'. Maybe if they did a search 50 years ago...

 
At 2:44 PM, Anonymous JJS said...

The whole "time-warp fog over the South Pole" thing seems pretty far-fetched to me. Over the years I've read a bit on what time actually is from a few physicists like Richard Feynman, Steven Hawking, Einstein; it seems like some of them would have mentioned if anyone had actually made a machine to go backwards in the past. Einsteins's Special Relativity does prove that time is relative going forward; time moves slower the faster you go and also the more gravity present, the slower time moves. But you have to be moving fairly close to the speed of light to really notice, which is kind of a problem.

I do seem to recall some NASA experiments in the 60's or 70's where they compared a highly sensative clock on the ground with another one that they put in a jet and flew it around for a few hours, then when the jet landed they compared the clock and they were off pretty much exactly as the Relativity equations predicted. But it was like 1 trillionth of a second or something.

As near as I can tell, the general agreement among respected physicists is that the equations in physics do allow for time to go backward, but no one credible has ever proved it's possible in real life. So I'm not buying the "weather balloon went back 30 years" story. But if you do find a way, buy me some Berkshire Hathaway stock in the early 1970's, OK?

 
At 11:37 PM, Blogger pete. said...

Thanks, JJS. Since this stuff obviously interests me on some level I should just read one of those "quantum physics for laypeople" books. I think that stuff would probably be even weirder than this science fiction nonsense.

 
At 9:03 AM, Anonymous JJS said...

Yeah, it is sometimes. There is a book I've read that is pretty good about explaining the current state of quantum physics; the latest theories and what we think we know about the origins of the universe, time, the big bang, atoms, etc. It's called The Fabric of the Cosmos by Brian Greene. The first half of the book is really interesting and wasn't that hard of a read, but the second half gets pretty deep into String Theory, which is pretty hard to visualize and made my eyes glaze over a lot.

If you care, there is another book I really liked that is more of a general information book: Bill Bryson's A Short History of Nearly Everything. He is a travel writer who says in the intro that he woke up one day and realized he knew nothing about science or how the earth was formed or anything, so he set out on a quest and spent 3 or 4 years talking to scientists, geologists, astronomers, physicists, etc. and wrote this book. I think he's a really good writer, and he can be pretty funny, so the book is very accessible to just regular schmoes like us. So check that out if you're interested.

 
At 9:07 AM, Anonymous momster said...

Pete, are you really going to tolerate Jon calling you a regular schmoe?

 
At 12:05 PM, Blogger pete. said...

Thanks, Jon. I've heard Bryson is really good. And I'll take this moment to say the time has come for us regular schmoes to become extraordinary schmoes! Darn it!

 
At 1:28 PM, Anonymous JJS said...

Pete, you know I've long thought of you as an extraordinary schmoe!

 

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